Question:
if a+b+c+0..... a^2+b^2+c^2=1 evaluate 16/(a^4+b^4+c^4)?
Arushi
2013-04-06 04:53:32 UTC
if a+b+c=0
a^2+b^2+c^2=1
evaluate 16/(a^4+b^4+c^4)
Five answers:
anonymous
2013-04-06 06:04:52 UTC
The way I'm about to show you is used in a lot of questions like this, and pretty much always works, you just need to find the right manipulation of squaring and it will all come out in the end.



I can't type up all the working such as squaring something with 3 terms in it, but I've done it on paper and it is correct



1. (a^2 + b^2 +c^2)^2= a^4 + b^4+ c^4 + 2(a^2b^2 + c^2a^2 + b^2c^2)



2. (a+b+c)^2 = a^2 + b^2 +c^2 +2(ab+bc+ca)



3. (ab+bc+ca)^2 = a^2b^2 + c^2a^2 + b^2c^2 +2abc(a+b+c)



These 3 facts are the groundwork (and took me a while to work out, but note the pleasing symmetry to them all) and will allow you to, after a bit of "changing the subject", to equate to your initial conditions a+b+c=0 and a^2+b^2+c^2=1



By the way, to do something like (a+b+c)^2, the quickest method is to write it as (a+(b+c))^2 and do it as though a is one term and b+c is the other term





OKAY. Onwards.





Using 3. we can see that (ab+bc+ca)^2 - (a^2b^2+c^2a^2+b^2c^2) = 2abc(a+b+c) = 0 because a+b+c = 0



so we have this



4. (ab+bc+ca)^2 = (a^2b^2+c^2a^2+b^2c^2)





Using 1. we rewrite it as



5. (a^2+b^2+c^2) = a^4+b^4+c^4 +2(ab+bc+ca)^2



Now rewrite 5, using 2, as



6. (a^2+b^2+c^2)^2 = a^4+b^4+c^4 +2 [[ (a+b+c)^2 -(a^2+b^2+c^2)]/2]^2





Now as a^2+b^2+c^2=1 and a+b+c=0, 6. obviously can transform to



7. (1)^2 = a^4+b^4+c^4 +2[[0-1]/2]^2



1=a^4+b^4+c^4 +2[(-1/2)]^2

1=a^4+b^4+c^4 +2[1/4]



a^4+b^4+c^4 = 1/2



put this into 16/a^4+b^4+c^4 and you get 32.





For these kind of questions, simply finding a value which will fit won't work every time. It's better to understand a method like mine, or the other algebraic method someone's written here, which can be used in every case.



I think this method is the best, I've seen it used in more advanced cases such as relationships between x^n+y^n+z^n and the same for n+1 and n+2. And it's fairly simple, the first 3 steps are just casual expanding brackets, the next 3 are just moving things around and plugging in values! Much simpler than finding an X,Y and getting mixed up with too many variables.



Anyway, hope it helps :) x
Pi R Squared
2013-04-06 05:08:24 UTC
Hi,



If a+b+c=0 and a² + b² + c² = 1,



then possible values are: a = 0. b = 1/√(2), and c = -1/√(2);



so a + b + c = 0 + 1/√(2) + ( -1/√(2)) = 0



and a² + b² + c² = 0² + (1/√(2))² + ( -1/√(2))² = 1



So to evaluate 16/(a⁴ + b⁴ + c⁴) = 16/(0⁴ + (1/√(2))⁴ + ( -1/√(2))⁴) =

16/(0 + ¼ + ¼) = 16/(½) = 32 <==ANSWER



I hope that helps!! :-)
Raffaele
2013-04-06 05:30:27 UTC
a + b + c = 0

a² + b² + c² = 1



a = (√(2 - 3c²) - c)/2

b = - (√(2 - 3c²) + c)/2



a² = (2 - 3c² + c² - 2c√(2 - 3c²))/4 = (1 - c² - c√(2 - 3c²))/2 = (x - y)/2

b² = (2 - 3c² + c² + 2c√(2 - 3c²))/4 = (1 - c² + c√(2 - 3c²))/2 = (x + y)/2



x = 1 - c²

y = c√(2 - 3c²)



x² = (1 - c²)² = 1 - 2c² + c⁴

y² = c²(2 - 3c²) = 2c² - 3c⁴



a⁴ + b⁴ = (x - y)²/4 + (x + y)²/4 = (x² - 2xy + y² + x² + 2xy + y²)/4 = (x² + y²)/2



a⁴ + b⁴ = (x² + y²)/2 = (1 - 2c² + c⁴ + 2c² - 3c⁴)/2 = (1 - 2c⁴)/2 = 1/2 - c⁴



a⁴ + b⁴ + c⁴ = (1/2 - c⁴) + c⁴ = 1/2



16/(a⁴ + b⁴ + c⁴) = 16/(1/2) = 32



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I don't agree with Pi R Squared

because

a + b + c = 0

a² + b² + c² = 1

has infinitely many solutions



The one he used worked just because he is lucky :)
anonymous
2016-08-04 07:28:03 UTC
Let xa = (a+b+c) = 0 --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- (1); ya = xa^2 = (a+b+c)^2 = a^2 +b^2 + c^2 +2ab + 2bc + 2ca --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- (2); ya = 0; So, from (2), a^2 +b^2 + c^2 = -2(ab + bc + ca) --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- (three); Let, p = a^2 +b^2 + c^2, --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- (4); and q = -(ab + bc + ca) --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- (5); From (3), p/q = 2 --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- (6); Now, let us dissect the LHS with its terms; From (1), (a+b+c) = zero --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- (1); Multiply eqn (1) with the aid of a; We get, a(a+b+c) = 0 that's, a^2 + ab + ca = 0 that is, a^2 - bc = -(ab + bc+ ca) --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- (7); in a similar fashion, multiplying eqn (1) by using b, we are able to get, b^2 - ca = -(ab + bc+ ca) --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- (eight); And again, multiplying eqn (1) with the aid of c, we will get, c^2 - ab = -(ab + bc+ ca) --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- (9); as a result, utilising (7), (eight) & (9), we will rearrange the LHS as follows; LHS = a^2/(a^2-bc) + b^2/(b^2-ca) + c^2/(c^2-ab) = (a^2 +b^2+ c^2)/(-ab-bc-ca) --- --- --- --- (10); From (four), (5) & (10), we get, LHS = p/q --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- (eleven); And, from (6) & (11), we get, LHS = 2 that is, a^2/(a^2-bc) + b^2/(b^2-ca) + c^2/(c^2-ab) = 2 --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- (proved);
Ganesh
2013-04-06 10:26:55 UTC
32


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